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    #41684   2008-05-17 09:48 GMT      
    Or is it me getting old as the modern models do not seem to have any character other than perhaps Concord or the Vulcan Bomber.

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    #41685   2008-05-17 09:54 GMT      
    I agree, my heart still races when I glimpse a P-51

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    #41686   2008-05-17 09:57 GMT      
    absolutely, WW1 and WW2 had much more intresting planes.It took skill to fly them.There were no missles that would lock onto a target w/ the click of a button.It was harder then to destroy your opponent

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    #41687   2008-05-17 10:00 GMT      
    Modern aircraft have gone the way of modern car design.Most if not all look roughly the same and are very hard to tell apart.Concorde was unique.Vulcan yes.What about the Victor.Anyone remember TSR2 ?

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    #41688   2008-05-17 10:24 GMT      
    yes i agree modern aircraft have lost a little flare but that is the price you pay for a better aircraft, unfortunately aerodynamics of something so big can only get so good which is why they look similar. im sure given time there will be another big leap in aircraft engineering that will bring out something new and never seen befor but lets face it the older generation still wont like it as they dont like change. i supppose your used to what your used to. id bet there are young kids out ther that think things like a spitfire look silly compared to something like a mig

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    #41689   2008-05-17 12:03 GMT      
    Current day aircraft are not boring, in fact they are far more exciting than the older versions, simply because the flight envelope is much larger and more complex. The older aircraft used to spring many a surprise from time to time due to lack of knowledge of many aspects of aerodynamics and flight. In the modern age, flight has become more predictable which, perhaps, makes you feel they have no character.

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    #41690   2008-05-17 12:14 GMT      
    Yup, they just dont have that same distinction of strapping the whole plane on you like before. Small cramped cockpits and lots of torque to deal with. Now its all fly by wire and crap

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    #41691   2008-05-17 12:32 GMT      
    yes they do not go into the fine details now just rush to get them built?

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    #41692   2008-05-17 17:04 GMT      
    No, all aircraft have their place and history. WW2 Wellingtons, Lancasters, Spitfires, Hurricanes, ME109s, Stukas, Mosquitos fantastic aircraft. Post war Harriers, B1s, F4s, F15s, F111s awesome but todays Typhoon and JSF, B2 and F117 equally incredible - my advice don't compare them, just enjoy them all. I appreciate the TSR2 comment below, cancelled because of politics and the need to demonstrate European cooperation on MRCA (Tornado) which we didn't really need as TSR2 was arguably better than Tornado turned out to be. If you ever get the chance get along to the USAF museum in Dayton Ohio, the best collection of military aircraft in the World

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    #41693   2008-05-17 21:43 GMT      
    I agree with what you are saying but dont forget the F-14. That was an awesome plane that had plenty of character.

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    #41694   2008-05-18 05:10 GMT      
    i don't think boring is the right word or phrase to use id say they are less evocative.

    there is a grace and beauty about WW1 and WW2 war planes particularly from Britain, you only have to look at Lancasters, Spitfires, Hurricanes, Mosquitos, Tempests, Typhoons, Beau fighters, Beau forts, Camels etc to see there is design flare that few others can match

    In the cold war the British aircraft Industry went mental, planes like the Vulcan, Victor, Valiant, EE Lightning, Canberra, Buccaneer, Sea Vixen, Harrier, Nimrod, Javelin, Hunter etc all of which are glorious to look at as well as very capable

    the other thing i think is we are living in a PC HSE world and we are hankering for a time when life had just a little bit of danger to it

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    #41695   2008-05-18 09:26 GMT      
    I completely agree with you, nothing has a sweeter sound than a Merlin engine, older aircraft have "character"

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    #41696   2008-05-18 11:37 GMT      
    I agree, I like the old piston engines better myself

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    #41697   2008-05-18 17:47 GMT      
    Well I'd rather have a boring flight than an exciting one...

    That being said, all the shiny new VLJs popping up look really promising!
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